I finally got into Karma and it's really fast! The only thing that was ever holding me back from learning Karma was I didn't understand how Solaris worked, but I finally got over that and it feels great! It's so sweet to create things in Houdini and just render it out in the same application. I don't need the hassle of exporting the geometry to another app and debug all those exporting issues. And after doing a lot of test scenes with Karma, I am very impressed! Everything looks really good!